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		<title>By: &#8220;Unhyperlocal&#8221; &#124; Wadds' PR Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.speedcommunications.com/blogs/wadds/2009/08/12/why-local-bloggers-may-never-compete-with-local-media/comment-page-1/#comment-4746</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Unhyperlocal&#8221; &#124; Wadds' PR Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] flaw in using a network of local bloggers as a cost-effective model for developing local content. I blogged about this issue last month. Here&#8217;s what Russell has to say. […] writing about my neighbourhood worries me deeply. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] flaw in using a network of local bloggers as a cost-effective model for developing local content. I blogged about this issue last month. Here&#8217;s what Russell has to say. […] writing about my neighbourhood worries me deeply. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Newsquest give power to the public with a set of hyper-local blogs, but have they thought out problems with the news model? &#171; How to microblog in high heels</title>
		<link>http://www.speedcommunications.com/blogs/wadds/2009/08/12/why-local-bloggers-may-never-compete-with-local-media/comment-page-1/#comment-4298</link>
		<dc:creator>Newsquest give power to the public with a set of hyper-local blogs, but have they thought out problems with the news model? &#171; How to microblog in high heels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up local bloggers under their own brand name. See more comments on the hyper-local safety debate here.  Talk about Local is a service which helps local people get blogs up and running &#8211; but the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up local bloggers under their own brand name. See more comments on the hyper-local safety debate here.  Talk about Local is a service which helps local people get blogs up and running &#8211; but the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely as blogs are still not covered by the press complaints commission that they are the opinions of an individual and you will be ok, unless what you are saying is libelous!? (I am not a media lawyer)

Yes hyper local news sites might be on a sticky wicket, but it is an interesting debate and again an area where the legislation has not caught up with the technology / web. 

I would be interested to know of any liable suits that are currently ongoing with local bloggers?

A particularly good example is the Bristol Blogger (anonymous) who has a no holes barred style and has avoided prosecution to date. (as far as I am aware). 

However, ultimately it is all about community and contacts. You have to build bridges in a community to get to the best stories. Burn them at your peril...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely as blogs are still not covered by the press complaints commission that they are the opinions of an individual and you will be ok, unless what you are saying is libelous!? (I am not a media lawyer)</p>
<p>Yes hyper local news sites might be on a sticky wicket, but it is an interesting debate and again an area where the legislation has not caught up with the technology / web. </p>
<p>I would be interested to know of any liable suits that are currently ongoing with local bloggers?</p>
<p>A particularly good example is the Bristol Blogger (anonymous) who has a no holes barred style and has avoided prosecution to date. (as far as I am aware). </p>
<p>However, ultimately it is all about community and contacts. You have to build bridges in a community to get to the best stories. Burn them at your peril&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting story.

Having just started as community manager for a Northcliffe Meda local site in Bristol (Redland People) and having run my own neighourhood blog for 4 years, I agree these are real issues.

The complexity is heightend when you have a family who are integal members of the neighbourhood.

At Redland People, we only cover soft news, but I agree that an independent blogger may want to push the boat out at times - as I did when a local youth was arrested for manufacturing a suicide vest, and I broke the story about his school background.

Food for thought, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting story.</p>
<p>Having just started as community manager for a Northcliffe Meda local site in Bristol (Redland People) and having run my own neighourhood blog for 4 years, I agree these are real issues.</p>
<p>The complexity is heightend when you have a family who are integal members of the neighbourhood.</p>
<p>At Redland People, we only cover soft news, but I agree that an independent blogger may want to push the boat out at times &#8211; as I did when a local youth was arrested for manufacturing a suicide vest, and I broke the story about his school background.</p>
<p>Food for thought, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Why local bloggers may never compete with local media &#124; The Ublogo Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.speedcommunications.com/blogs/wadds/2009/08/12/why-local-bloggers-may-never-compete-with-local-media/comment-page-1/#comment-3994</link>
		<dc:creator>Why local bloggers may never compete with local media &#124; The Ublogo Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matt Wardman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick G makes some good points. I have eclectic reflections :-)

I think there is a need to reflect on &quot;hyperlocal&quot;. Does that mean the Evening Standard or the Lower-Twisleton-under-Piddle village paper? Jeff Jarvis&#039; recent models from CUNY suggest that &quot;ultralocal&quot; may actually mean &quot;regional&quot; or &quot;metropolitan&quot; in some quarters.

&gt;The skillset is totally different – you need to be trained, brave and hungry for career success to succeed as a local journalist, to succeed as a local blogger you need a community interest and time on your hands.

I think that is a false dichotomy, and that anybody can combine the roles and skills however, and whenever, they want. Do I have to be interested in what anybody decides is &quot;success&quot; for my local site, or perhaps it is not for anybody to set up criteria? 

I&#039;d encourage local bloggers to evaluate themselves on their own terms in their own context, though I&#039;d certainly encourage them to take a vigorous and campaiging approach to scrutiny of their local politicians - since that role is available in spades as the local commercial media withdraws. 

I&#039;m wondering - but haven&#039;t put it systematically yet - that &quot;trained journalists&quot; are perhaps trained out of a whole set of skills and a mindset which are native to bloggers, which may be crucial for one type of ultralocal site. 

Is one strand of local blogging is about building (I would say rebuilding) life in a community, and you can&#039;t do that by flying in with a newspaper and dropping a story from 30,000 feet. Is the possibility of having someone annoyed turn up on your doorstep a necessary risk for a local publication which is truly local? Can a publication *be* part of local life without that risk?

And is that a competitive edge that local blogs will have over less local newspapers?

As a final note, I think that anonymous reporting - unless there is a local trusted brand which lends an integrity to counterbalance the anonymity - is a dangerous game editorially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick G makes some good points. I have eclectic reflections <img src='http://www.speedcommunications.com/blogs/wadds/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think there is a need to reflect on &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221;. Does that mean the Evening Standard or the Lower-Twisleton-under-Piddle village paper? Jeff Jarvis&#8217; recent models from CUNY suggest that &#8220;ultralocal&#8221; may actually mean &#8220;regional&#8221; or &#8220;metropolitan&#8221; in some quarters.</p>
<p>&gt;The skillset is totally different – you need to be trained, brave and hungry for career success to succeed as a local journalist, to succeed as a local blogger you need a community interest and time on your hands.</p>
<p>I think that is a false dichotomy, and that anybody can combine the roles and skills however, and whenever, they want. Do I have to be interested in what anybody decides is &#8220;success&#8221; for my local site, or perhaps it is not for anybody to set up criteria? </p>
<p>I&#8217;d encourage local bloggers to evaluate themselves on their own terms in their own context, though I&#8217;d certainly encourage them to take a vigorous and campaiging approach to scrutiny of their local politicians &#8211; since that role is available in spades as the local commercial media withdraws. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering &#8211; but haven&#8217;t put it systematically yet &#8211; that &#8220;trained journalists&#8221; are perhaps trained out of a whole set of skills and a mindset which are native to bloggers, which may be crucial for one type of ultralocal site. </p>
<p>Is one strand of local blogging is about building (I would say rebuilding) life in a community, and you can&#8217;t do that by flying in with a newspaper and dropping a story from 30,000 feet. Is the possibility of having someone annoyed turn up on your doorstep a necessary risk for a local publication which is truly local? Can a publication *be* part of local life without that risk?</p>
<p>And is that a competitive edge that local blogs will have over less local newspapers?</p>
<p>As a final note, I think that anonymous reporting &#8211; unless there is a local trusted brand which lends an integrity to counterbalance the anonymity &#8211; is a dangerous game editorially.</p>
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		<title>By: ASH-10 &#187; Stuff I&#8217;ve been reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASH-10 &#187; Stuff I&#8217;ve been reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why local bloggers may never compete with local mediaThis issue came to me last week and it worthy of much thought. In fact it&#039;s probably the biggest issue facing those wishing to see blogging take off at a hyperlocal level. In short, those producing the blogs are part of the communities they&#039;re writing about so if they write something controversial or unpopular this can affect them personally. We haven&#039;t spent much time looking at the dynamics of the local communities which we&#039;re looking to network in new ways. I suspect they might be more complex and fragile that we imagined. And someone might get hurt. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why local bloggers may never compete with local mediaThis issue came to me last week and it worthy of much thought. In fact it&#39;s probably the biggest issue facing those wishing to see blogging take off at a hyperlocal level. In short, those producing the blogs are part of the communities they&#39;re writing about so if they write something controversial or unpopular this can affect them personally. We haven&#39;t spent much time looking at the dynamics of the local communities which we&#39;re looking to network in new ways. I suspect they might be more complex and fragile that we imagined. And someone might get hurt. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer is ring the Journal newsdesk, or what ever its are called now, and tip them off about the stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer is ring the Journal newsdesk, or what ever its are called now, and tip them off about the stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Medial Digital &#8211; Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0&#187; Linktipps Neu &#187; Linktipps zum Wochenstart (21)</title>
		<link>http://www.speedcommunications.com/blogs/wadds/2009/08/12/why-local-bloggers-may-never-compete-with-local-media/comment-page-1/#comment-3825</link>
		<dc:creator>Medial Digital &#8211; Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0&#187; Linktipps Neu &#187; Linktipps zum Wochenstart (21)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PR-Experte und Blogger Djure Meinen ist kürzlich von Bochum aufs Land gezogen (nach Varel am Jadebusen) und macht die Erfahrung, dass lokale Blogger vor dem gleichen Problem stehen wie etablierte Lokaljournalisten: Sie müssen es aushalten können, den Personen aus ihrer Berichterstattung auch am nächsten Tag beim Bäcker zu begegnen und eventuell Parias im Dorf zu werden. Meinen sieht das weniger kritisch als Stephen Waddington. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PR-Experte und Blogger Djure Meinen ist kürzlich von Bochum aufs Land gezogen (nach Varel am Jadebusen) und macht die Erfahrung, dass lokale Blogger vor dem gleichen Problem stehen wie etablierte Lokaljournalisten: Sie müssen es aushalten können, den Personen aus ihrer Berichterstattung auch am nächsten Tag beim Bäcker zu begegnen und eventuell Parias im Dorf zu werden. Meinen sieht das weniger kritisch als Stephen Waddington. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: @brindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>@brindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell us what the stories are, and we&#039;ll tell you what to do. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell us what the stories are, and we&#8217;ll tell you what to do. <img src='http://www.speedcommunications.com/blogs/wadds/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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